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So there apparently was some information floating out there about the Wine Bloggers Conference that I find very interesting.  Mostly because of the source and because while he should be ashamed of himself, I ultimately agree with him.

It was Robert Parker himself that seems to take issue with bloggers.  The thread on eRobertParker.com centers around bloggers and the fact that they are changing the industry.  Good, bad, whatever your take they at least admit that its changing the industry.

I don’t take issue with that.  What I do take issue with, and I take it directly with Mr. Parker, is his mis-representation of the conference, his lack of understanding of the community, and is unwillingness to even attempt to correct either one of those two mistakes.

First, let me say that the thread calls into question the motivation behind not only the Wine Bloggers’ Conference but the OpenWine Consortium.  The original poster says:

“I believe you and many of the top wine critics are under fire today not by chance but a systematic effort of the wine industry to change the paradigm of the relationship between consumer of wine and producers of wine….”

and then goes on further to say:

“With regard to whether this is an industry planned movement or just a shift in buying habits enabled by technology, I think could be up for debate. But when I look at things like the Open Wine Consortium or I look at www.winebloggerconference.com and examine the participants, sponsors, etc., I think there has to be a strategy for change? The technology industry has made shifts in market conditions through consortiums and conferences for years. It’s not wrong or right. It is an industry doing what is best for the producers.”

Joe (thread originator) – My name is Joel Vincent.  You can read my background here – JoelVincent.com.  I created the OpenWine Consortium and I produce the Wine Bloggers’ Conference. I am not someone deep in the California wine industry.  I am fascinated by technology and wine is a serious passion/love.  I created the OpenWine Consortium as a consortium of wine companies all over the world to learn about and drive Web2.0 technologies’ adoption because its GOOD FOR WINE.  I believe that now and always have believed it.  It started as a consortium because that is how I understood how to create a movement like that – I’ve been active in the IEEE and the WiFi Alliance as well as efforts in creating standards for Ethernet and Internet Protocols.  When I saw that the wine industry needed a way to learn about these technologies I created the OWC to try to organize the more knowledgeable companies and have them efficiently proliferate their understanding of Web2.0 to other wine industry people who don’t.  Also, its a Web2.0 community because I believe the best way to learn is by doing.  So just by using the OWC the industry is learning the power of Web2.0.  It has since grown into a much broader business networking platform for the wine industry than I ever imagined attracting people from every continent and every facet of the wine business.

The Wine Bloggers’ Conference was a decision I made to organize the community of wine writers that are blogging and give them a forum to learn from one another.  It wasn’t an original idea – the European organizers and I discussed it for a while then did independent conferences last year and combined them this year.

Since most citizen bloggers are exactly that – citizen bloggers – I figured they didn’t have the funds to attend something like the Professional Wine Writers’ Symposium ($500 admission I think?).  So I asked wine companies to sponsor to subsidize the costs and make it reasonable.  They came in droves.  I’m sure they have their agenda, but I don’t care what their agenda is as long as the goal of getting the community together to learn from each other is met and the prerequisite to that is to make it affordable.  Mission accomplished there.

I hardly think that I am the “industry” but yes, its an astute observation that I have created a platform the for the movement of Web2.0 into the wine industry.  Thanks for the props (FYI to eRob folks – “Props” is short for “propers” and is a slang term commonly used by those under 40 to recognize that one has been afforded the proper credit for their efforts).

Third, to Joe AND Mr. Parker, the Wine Bloggers Conference is held in CA and Europe with affiliated events cropping up in New York now as well.  So this movement is even more widespread than you understand, more pervasive than you’ll every know, and DEFINITELY not confined to California.

Its late and I have two young tots.  So let me get to why Mr. Parker should be ashamed of himself.  I’m personally annoyed because I (and every blogger I know) would never, EVER take anything away from Parker’s importance to this industry or his achievements.  But let me address some of the word, written directly from Mr Parker, about the Wine Bloggers Conference.

“looking at that Bloggers Conference, it does look like a big and free sloppy kiss and then some from the California wine industry…with much more than minimal hospitality offered…love to see some transparency from the bloggers(how many of them are paying for travel,car rental,hotels and meals?)…”

For someone who continues to make wine blogging synonymous with the Wine Spectator Award debacle, this is one of the most uninformed mischaracterizations I’ve seen in the Inter-webs’ series of tubes.  The WBC is a community organization effort.  Driven in the US by myself and Allan Wright of Zephyr Adventures (niether of us are part of the “CA wine industry”) and in Europe by Catavino Marketing and Robert McIntosh – again, no CA there.  Bloggers are paying for everything but a couple of dinners.  It even says that on the site.  Did you read the site?

Next, and this is directly from Mr. Parker:

“or should I say blobbers since they are the source of much of the misinformation,distortion,and egegious falsehoods spread with reckless abandon on the internet…”

Is “big and free sloppy wet kiss and then some from the CA wine industry” not misinformation, distortion, and egegious falsehood?  I’m just an electrical engineer from MIT but I think “egegious” is a misspelling or I’m just worse at this writing stuff than I thought.  I think those two statement are ironic though…unless I don’t get that concept either.

Moving on:

“no doubt I miss some very fine producers as do others,but their trade associations may have had it with the independent press in search of just the best….and need to garner support from somewhere…by targeting the independent and more established press..it may help bloggers’ readership…the public sucks down anything perceived as “scandal’…even if the story is totally bereft of any investigation or fact checking…”

Mr Parker you need to understand something.  Last year, Alice Feiring gave a keynote speech to bloggers and it was inspiring.  In that speech she said that wine bloggers represent something unique in the entire history of wine writing and that is a community of wine writers.  The one dude who entrapped Wine Spectator is not enough of a sample set to make conclusions on the entirety of the wine blogging.  Again, note the irony of your “blobbers” statement.

More?  Sure thing:

“and of course,and bloggers can’t continue to exist without wine-related advertising(we do and will continue to do so)…”

Now there you are showing again a fundamental lack of understanding of not only wine bloggers, but Web2.0 in general.  People participate because they want to contribute to a community.  I can tell you that no one in wine blogging that I’ve met sees blogging as something that they will do as a business.  And the speakers (who include businesses that are not wineries, Alder Yarrow of Vinography, Steve Hiemoff of Wine Enthusiast, and many others) preach to everyone that comes to the WBC that if this is their intentions then they need to get off the bus right now.

And he continues…

“but that conference sounds like a California wine trade junket to further the interests of the vast California wine industry that feels slighted by coverage from the more established press….as always there is a simple solution for wineries feeling ignored….make better wine…it will get attention faster than you ever dreamed….fascinating list of sponsors under-writing all the costs for that event…not one of them pro-consumer….all of them pro wine-selling business….”

This may be true of the sponsors, but the content of the event is driven by the community.  Topics are discussed in the US conference and expanded upon in the European conference and vice versa.  There are ad-hoc events to discuss topics that weren’t explored at the main WBC.  This movement is much much bigger than you understand, clearly.

For the reasons I stated above, you should be ashamed of yourself.  But now, let me agree with you in a HUGE HUGE way:

“Vinography comes to mind immediately…so it is not so much an anti-blogging position… just anti irresponsible bloggers…”

Yes, Alder is a clear leader.  And we are ALL “anti-irresponsible” bloggers.  Bloggers are a very very new community.  They are trying to understand themselves as much as people are trying to understand them.  The topics that people want to discuss at the conference include:

  • Blogging and the future wine writing and wine reporting
  • Beyond Words: How Video Content is Changing the Wine Biz
  • Create a panel on Unified standards for ethics and disclosure
  • Legalities of Blogging

Wine bloggers are voting to discuss these topics.  They want, collectively as a community, to understand how to be responsible wine bloggers and what that means.  Many don’t have the distinguished career that you have in wine writing.  Blogging is still very young by many standards and absolutely in its infancy in the wine industry.  There are many things yet to be determines and at least the community wants to take responsibility for what is happening.

You and your voice can be a leader to a new generation of wine writers and lead the change that is happening to the wine writing industry.  This change is going to happen.  I’m not forcing it, just giving it a platform.  I’m not the CA wine industry as Joe seems to thing, I’m just a nerd from MIT that loves wine.  If you came to the conference and started to discuss with the community what you believed should be deemed as “responsible” blogging you’d have 200 very enthusiastic bloggers doing their best to live up to the standards set by thought leaders like yourself.

But rather than being the center of the inevitable change, the beacon that guides that change in a responsible direction, you seem to be disparaging what you don’t seem to understand.  Rather than attending, understanding, and helping, you are pointing at the problems with blogging and offering no solutions.

If thats going to be your stance going forward you should refrain from commenting on what you and your Web2.0 advisors don’t understand and stick to tasting wine.

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  • I think he was just protecting his livelihood. It's a self preservation type of attack really. Something that should be embraced moving forward instead of disparaging the medium.
  • i realize you wrote this quite awhile ago, but i just came upon the posting now. bravo! a terrific point-by-point. i loved attending the wine blogger's conference this year, btw. it was my first, and i look forward to others!
  • I did write it a while ago but thanks for commenting. It was an outrageous exchange when it happened. The upside is this - let him ignore this space longer - more for the rest of us! :)
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  • We are in an environment where social media is ubiquitous, it is in nearly every global household spanning young, old, rich and poor. This bloodless revolution has changed the way we read the news, get our mail, talk to our friends, network, decide our dining preference, and purchase everything from toilet paper to rare automobiles. We do it all online. And it happens in milliseconds.

    At last count, more than 60 million worldwide bloggers are talking about everything from wigs, wine, wedding bling and grandma’s recipes. According to Technorati, nearly 100K new blogs are created each day. Consumer generated media is so powerful, it helped elect the most unlikely of candidates, President Barack Obama, against nearly impossible odds.

    On the flip side, traditional media as we know it, is taking it’s last gasping breaths. Many reporters we’ve relied on for decades are going the way of the dinosaurs; by virtue of reduced space for editorial; daily layoffs; and the rise of the proletariat blogger.

    The ascendency of the blogger and the ubiquity of social media have transformed the the very definition of influencer. Like it or not, luddites beware.

    I'm sure it's very challenging as a journalist who has been the primary influencer for decades to realize that they no longer hold the keys to the kingdom. Parker's influence has been stripped away, not because of systematic conspiracy by the wine industry, but by a mass of humanity who no longer accepts that there is only one flavor profile (big fruit anyone) that is acceptable.

    Parker and can either embrace the citizen journalist or be left behind at his own peril.

    Carin Galletta
  • bobzaguy
    Carin, your comment about Parker's influence being 'stripped away' and 'reduced space for editorial' seems to say you aren't aware that he owns his own journal. And sells it to quite a large number of people who want his opinions. To the tune of somewhere north of $3m a year. A fairly good job by most standards. Nothing but the best in wines is a side benefit to the job.
    I am not a fan of his. My sense of taste in wine is the opposite of his. I prefer subtle refined and elegant wines that speak of their terroir. Surprising, because he is so well known for his Bordeaux writings. Their wines are normally not "fruit bombs" at all.
    I am aware of how large an influence he does have in the industry. He has caused a large group of very serious people to become experts on their own about wines as a result of his writings. There isn't a group in the industry that I am aware of that doesn't consider Parker in either positive or negative terms. Most are positive.
    That said, it wouldn't surprise me if there are significant numbers of elements in the industry that want to bypass him. He has been shown to be complicit in more than one winery losing distribution because of his low scores.
    He hasn't lost the keys to the kingdom, the kingdom has just installed a few more doors that they aren't locking at the moment. There really is a giant wine lake out there. It needs to be sold. Anyway possible.
  • Well said! Thanks for the comment!
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  • digver
    Declining subscriptions and market share force Parker to wield the might of his pen. I wouldn't take this as seriously as looking into the future of open source ratings and communications about any niche, but, specifically wine.

    How long will Laube and Parker be the bar for winemaking and consumer interest in a wine? As long as it takes for the sheer viral aptitudes of interested wine lovers and growers to develop. Nothing more. We all have a hand in this and it shouldn't be in just two guys hands that have been or should be excusing themselves from the table and opening doors for the next revolution that they started 20+ years ago.
  • I couldn't agree with you more Alistair. If the california vineyards want limelight, let them make the wine better. "Build it and they will come"
  • Yeah Parker needs to back off. People are going to share info, that's a good thing, even if he loses some business because of it.
  • ledomduvin
    I totally agree with you Alastair. I have been a Wine Buyer, Sommelier and Wine Director for the past 17 years, and a recent wine blogger yet I only obey to my taste buds. Although I respect him, I won't let myself influenced and do not care about what Mr. Parker has to say. In most cases, I taste without knowing the price, the rating or any other influential info.

    I do not discuss the undeniable work that Mr. Parker has done for the past 30 years and the amount of people that he helped along the way to be discovered and attain the recognition that they have now.

    What I'm trying to say is that Mr. Parker is only one man with one, now well established and characteristic, palate. He has been for years attracted by much more extracted, bolder, riper, heavier, woodier wines than the public wants to taste...

    When he started, the American consumers were not educated and needed to follow the conviction and enthusiasm of someone that show them the right path. 30 years later, and I'm sure that is the reason why he is acting and talking like this (as Alastair said in his comment), he is slowly dying and loosing his touch.

    People are now much more educated about wine than they used to be 20-30 years ago and they are eager for much more info than before, more precision and more discoveries: value wines, with more balance, more acidity, less wood, fresher, juicier fruit, lower prices, from smaller producers, more organic, biodynamic and from sustainable culture. More over, with this economy, who can really afford big labels and brands anymore.

    Consumers want some new juice for a better price and that is what most wine bloggers bring to our attention and write about: somewhat undiscovered, small, artisan winemaker and lesser known wineries freshly arrived in the market. New wines that have not necessarily been in Mr. Parker's office or even Wine Spectator bureau for approbation.

    They talk about what they drink and taste everyday. What fascinate them and trigger their interest. We are talking about thousand and thousand of different palates from all around the world, tasting wines from all around the world and expressing their opinions, and most of the time without rating and other numbers, just words and passion.

    I would even agree more, with Alastair comment, by repeating his last sentence: "Blogs are about entertainment as well as opinion and fact and most of the ones I read are far more interesting than Parker's output."

    Keep up the good work wine bloggers, as long as you stay true to your taste buds, to the wine and its origin, you should not be discourage to express yourself. People browsing the internet knows that to get the best info, you have to diversify your source of information. So keep up writing!

    Enjoy!

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  • Michelle
    I have a question for anyone who be helpful enough to let me know is Dr. Parker still practicing or did he close his office on Ted Crozier Blvd.? Not for me personally but the pt. needs b/p med and is out.
  • What a tosser. It is the fundamental right of every human being to be allowed to express their opinion. Just because the internet enables even small voices to be heard with (almost) equal weight it is hardly surprising that Mr Parker feels threatened.
    He is in the same position as bookshops were a few years ago, or estate agents, or auction houses, or newspapers ah yes, the traditional media - dying slowly.
    Blogs are about entertainment as well as opinion and fact and most of the ones I read are far more interesting than Parker's output.
  • So right Alastair! So right. And of course "tosser" is a good description ;-)
  • karen786
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  • interesting - you wouldn't typically imagine that someone from an industry that allows itself to be graded subjectively with scored tastings, would have any amount of struggle understanding user based groups from the interwebz.

    or perhaps he thinks greater of wine than say food and uses zagat anyway.
  • Jack
    That posts on that thread by Parker and "Mao" Squires were shameful. Frankly, you can't refrute illogical comments because, well, yeah, they're illogical. Just ignore.
  • Thanks everyone for the thoughts and kind words on the post. Just trying to defend a defamation of the WBC!

    Don't be gutless about taking a swipe at me or my work. Why is the eRob thread shut down? I didn't even get to defend my self. Complete punk move.

    For the folks who DM'd me via Twitter - it doesn't take balls to say this to Parker. Why do I give a shit if Parker likes me or not? He doesn't sign my paycheck and I'm NOT going to let my name or anything associated with me or my character (i.e. family name) get called into question.

    As far as I'm concerned, if he really wants to help, I'm sure we'd all welcome an education from the original maverick. If not, then I guess Gary Vaynerchuk really IS Robert Parker 2.0. Which is fine with me because I know Gary wouldn't punk out if he made statements like that.

    Cheers!
  • I have lots of friends who drink wine but are not "into" wine and as the resident geek they often ask a lot of questions about wines to buy, etc. Fact is most do not know who Robert Parker is and put the same weight on his shelf talkers as the local store clerk who has a shelf talker also.

    They care about finding value wines that they will like and matches their taste profile- So if for example they like the Bogle Petite Sirah I poured they would be inclined to like the Rosenblum Heritage Clone Petite Sirah also in my opinion- So to the defense of blogs and bloggers if a person searches out a wine recomendation on the internet and comes across Bob the wine guy in Arkansas and he likes a wine that they do also then they would be inclined to give another suggestion of his a try.

    I think that might be what Parker misses in all of this, is just how big the wine drinking public has gotten in America and its growth in the last 5 years which has little to do with a Parker or Wine Spectator but people talking to people about wine.

    Ok I suck and it is time to go eat some food and drink some wine! Thinking a Girard Petite Sirah

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  • Chris Butts
    Who is Robert Parker?
  • I've thought a LOT about this topic today.

    And you know what?

    Here are some telling statistics for you:

    Number of TWA issues I've read: 0
    Number of Robert Parker reviews I've read: 0
    Number of wines I've purchased recommended by TWA staff: 0
    Number of people who I know well that have subscriptions to TWA: 0

    This is not to take anything away from Parker's amazing career. It's just to point out that a different sort of train is probably leaving the wine appreciation station.

    For now, the train is small, just like TWA was when Parker founded it. But it's got a lot of THINK-I-CAN passion behind it. Just like TWA did when Parker founded it.

    As Steve Heimoff commented on a recent blog post of mine that talked about Parker (and others), the fact that we are even considering calling Parker to task is a big sign that things are changing when it comes to wine appreciation...

    Nice work, Joel.

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  • Joel has pinned the tail on the donkey. This is Wine 2.0! Everyone is free to opine and the shared experience - facilitated by Social Media technologies - benefits us all.

    The way in which wine is perceived, evaluated, and enjoyed has changed. Unfortunately, the self-important dinosaurs facing extinction are saying whatever they can to justify themselves to their shrinking readership. "Wine Critics" are now just another set of individuals who are free to add their expertise to the discussion. They no longer have the last word. Sad that their leader/spokesmodel has to resort to petty insults and flinging his dino-poop around.

    Parker should know better. As Hardy points out, Robert Parker, Jr was an Ur-blogger with the BWA in the old days. He should be a Paterfamilias to the wine blogging world. Instead he comes across as a tragic figure like Major Fambrough in Dances with Wolves who goes mad in his irrelevance and wets himself as he sends the next generation out into the wild.

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  • Robert Berman
    It's very simple and very obvious: Robert Parker has lost his way.

    When he started out, he was like many of us. And, more importantly, he was sort of a consumer's advocate. Now he's part of the industry and all about empowering his own commercial leverage. If he were smart, he'd toss Web 0.5 like Joe and petty despots like Squires overboard.

    Unfortunately, I think he's become too much like what he railed against in the 1970s to hear the message.
  • Lisa is right on the money. If Parker and his generation don;t want to go the way of newspapers and Chevrolets, they'll adapt or preach to a dwindling audience of dinosaurs like themselves.

    The Internet and blogosphere have transformed every industry from gossip and fashion to cars and computers. Now, finally, it's happening in the wine space.

    Joel - invite RP to the WBC! Let him show us the light (fading and dim though it might be!)
  • Bold and fearless rebuttal, Joel! Greatly appreciate the careful dissection of the various commentaries. Can't really throw in my two cents, at least partially because I'm chicken, but regardless respect this insightful, detailed dialogue. Keep up the great work!
    Paul
  • Joel: Having witnessed the progression of wine journalism over the past several years, this is reminiscent of the transition to RP as an influencer from the Balzer/Finigan era. Finigan was excised to see Mr Parker lavish praise on the 1982 Bordeaux vintage, a vintage that he thought was overripe and flabby. Mr Parker, as we know, was ebullient in his analysis of this vintage. Mr Finigin lost the battle and eventually the war. Perhaps Mr Parker should go to iTunes and download Bob Dylan's recording of 'The Times they are a Changin'. It seems apparent that an evolution from the elitist, asymmetrical model of a dominant few reviewing wine for the masses, to a new, more democratic conversational symmetrical model of wine criticism that is inclusionary, rather than exclusionary.

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  • It looks like Mr. Parker's poorly researched and ill-executed attacks are part of the throes of a convulsing and transforming if not dying medium. Wine blog audiences (and other blog readers) are clearly a demographic Mr. Parker doesn't understand, care about or write for. It is unfortunate, however, when people who are valuable to the wine industry or wine consumers choose only to offer attacks and mis-informed pot-shots to a fledgling segment instead of offering to contribute to the inevitable trend that is blogging, information sharing and learning. I don't think Mr. Parker speaks to our audiences anyway, so in some ways, his tired tirade will underscore the disconnect another generation already knows exists.
  • Tim
    Although these arguments, complaints and critiques are maddening and sometimes embarrassing, I believe that they will improve the quality of traditional wine reporting, emerging wine blogging and even the wine industry itself.

    I can imagine equally heated debating and finger pointing during past technological upheavals in the wine industry, like when hybridization or non vinifera rootstocks was emerging to combat industry devastating diseases.

    In then end, we are left with a stronger and more exciting wine industry than could have been imagined before. Those who refuse to accept future are forced to watch it as it passes them by. Those that work through it, come out stronger for it.

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  • Nice post Joe! Would be great to include RP in the discussion on Blogger ethics and blogging in the broader sense, just like you suggested.

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  • Well stated Joel. There was just a bit of ignorance of the true facts in Mr. Parker's post. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he probably wrote it in haste.
    There are certain things that ring true in his words such as that bloggers are more friendly with the trade. I see blogs as the pillars of Social Media and SM is also an emerging marketing tool so it's a natural symbiosis. One clear differentiation has to be made though: Wine Advocate cannot accept advertising because they are being PAID by their READERS.
    Most wine blogs don't have advertising but, why shouldn't they really? As you pointed out, most bloggers don't even intend to make a business out of their blog and are hobbyists. However, make no mistake: Wine Advocate has SPONSORSHIP. It's just from the consumers and not the trade, and that fact does bestow RP with a unique ability to take an altruistic position. Yet, as with journalism in general, the core of the paradigm shift that Web2.0 and freedom of information is bringing about is that representing the readers is becoming an unsustainable business model. If I was RP, I'd probably be a little uppity too, watching my revenue dwindle away. If you can't get people to pay for subscriptions anymore because they can get information for free, how do you sustain a publication? Um...advertising? I don't know, maybe there is some other model and as soon as someone thinks of it, they will be the next Bill Gates.

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  • Joel,

    What bugs me most about this is that I feel Parker was blogger before there were blogs. The Baltimore Wine Advocate was an indy newsletter, looking to be an indy voice to bring his thoughts, impressions, and likes to the world. Sure it was a business venture, but he skipped the traditional media route, grabbed onto a relatively new medium w/ no advertisers and lots of criticism from the traditional media community. You'd think he'd be almost supportive of it (that may be a stretch) but at least not a jack-a** about it-- Making dangerous and false statements with obviously having ZERO clue about what really goes on.

    BUT- This is not uncommon behavior for him. Parker has been sued (and settled) for making damaging statements, he's attacked other critics for daring to contest his opinions, and he's seemingly employed a number of questionable people (or that don't uphold his professed standards) Hanna, now Squires, now Miller...

    Like him or not, Parker's value is not his palate but his pro-consumer, independent stance.... In light of current events, it seems that this professed independence is more myth than reality... To me, his edge and value is gone.

    <abbr>Check out Dirty’s last blog post - Old And In The Way? The Wine Advocate Gets Even Grumpier</abbr>
  • Well stated Joel! But just to add to the conversation, how many people honestly believe this statement is true,"..as always there is a simple solution for wineries feeling ignored….make better wine…it will get attention faster than you ever dreamed"? Making fabulous wine should be the tenet of every winery, but if this statement were true, I wouldn't be writing on several of our articles "unfortunately, it is unlikely that you will taste this fantastic wine unless you come to the X region of Portugal / Spain". A well made wine will only get you so far if you live in a box and aren't communicating with wine lovers (aka consumers) outside of your area. Hence it begs the question of RP, if it isn't through wine blogging that the message gets out, what is considered the "correct" way to get a wineries message out to the wine drinking (not exclusively wine geek) public?

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  • well said. Though I want to know about all the advertising that we bloggers take. Where? I'm sure there are some, but talk about bad fact checking, this is the one issue we can never seem to figure out. How to take money and remain independent.
  • Anthony
    I feel dumb, but who is Robert Parker? Another thing, is California wine really all that great? I live in Missouri, so I've drinking our wine for quite some time. And I have to say that I love it, and it at a fraction of the price! I'm content drinking my 7.99 bottle of St. James Winery Friendship School Red wine.
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